So when the need emerged of a true scout cruiser, better armed than destroyers, and with a better range, usable as destroyer leaders, work started on a new design in 1917. Many served as fire support and command ships in Vietnam, and five of them were completely rebuilt in missile cruisers including two, the USS Chicago and the USS Albany was still in service in 1980. However, there is no doubt that they are moving in that direction. USN BuOrd investigated in 1940 to replacing the 0.50″ BMG and W.H.P. At the same time, simplifications in design were made, just like other classes like the Fletcher-class destroyers to reduce the delivery rate. Consider, for example, the German F125, optimised for long endurance & low intensity operations. They were originally designed in 1919, originally to take the squadrons of large-scale destroyers (Wickes and Clemson) from the end of the Great War. However, as the boundaries of the treaty flew away at the beginning of the conflict, engineers became free to add additional 5-in turrets and largely reinforce the AAA, now including 40 and 20 mm guns (8 of 40 mm and 15 of 20 mm). Displacement: 7050 t, 8950 T FLDimensions: 172 x 16.2 x 7.25 mPropulsion: 2 propellers, 2 Westinghouse turbines, 2 BW boilers, 70,000 hp. The industrial steamroller so feared by admiral Yamamoto was unleashed in 1942. Armament: 9 x 152mm (3×3) guns, 8 x 127mm guns, 8 Mitt. Project 1143.7 : Ulyanovsk-class heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser; Project 1144.2 Orlan: Kirov-class nuclear-powered missile cruiser; Project 1145.1 Sokol: Mukha small anti-submarine ship; Project 1151.0: Belyanka-class transport; Project 1154.0 Yastreb: Neustrashimyy-class frigate; Project 1153 OREL: projected nuclear-powered aircraft carrier (1976) Project 1155 Fregat: Udaloy I-class … shell. Not quite true in international terms - the La Fayettes for example carry F pennant numbers so they are NATO designation frigates; and certainly in the past their frigates have been numerous. They became the stable of heavy short range AA artillery on all USN Cruisers. Jan 4, 2021 #4 I think Chris’s explanation is right on. No doubt the “tin class cruisers” of the previous Washington designs, imposed by the tonnage limit forced the office of construction and repair within the Admiralty to review its copy by gaining weight where it was necessary for a better distribution and improve protection. The USS Pensacola in March 1945, in support of Okinawa. It’s actually closer in concept to a Battleship then a Battlecruiser. This was, by all margins, the largest cruiser force that ever roamed the oceans. This was the model fitted on the triple turrets of the USS Brooklyn and the eight other ships of the class. Their anti-submarine protection was very advanced and their active service was very active and long. However in 1944 the 20 mm was found unable to stop Japanese Kamikaze planes and disappeared together with the 40 mm in the mid-1950s, rendered obsolete by the advent of the Jet age. 36 But in 1944, the situation in Japan was such that the only threats to be feared were Kamikazes and pocket submersibles of the coastal defense or suicide boats. This is also tricky with language differences. With the Alaska, the Admiralty intended to pass directly to the caliber 305 mm, that in force on the ships of line since 1890 and until 1916. The Mark 35 round exited the barrel at 2,500 ft/s (760 m/s). USS Indianapolis en 1945, at the time she delivered the atomic bomb, sunk soon after on her way back. What else could it be but a colonial cruiser? The Des Moines had 24 × 3 inch/50 caliber guns in 12 twin mounts, and the Worcester experimented in a big way: There were five dual 3-in/50 Mk33 port, including 3-in/50s installed in early 1949, five dual 3-in/50 Mk33 starboard, and one dual 3-in/50 Mk33 on the bow plus two single 3-in/50 Mk34 on blisters fantail. Before that, the USN had experimented with fleet armoured cruisers, built alongside pre-dreadnoughts, down to small unprotected cruisers not much larger than gunboats (and reclassified as such in WW1). Nothing of that scale was ever built afterwards, even when the USSR unveiled in 1979 its famous Kirov class “battlecruisers”. The Baltimore class was to have 24 units, but 6 were cancelled on August 12, 1945. You may hear the Russian Navy Kirov class being referred to as a Battlecruiser, its not. Well it's something of a minefield, as the nomenclature has both changed over time, and different countries can have different names for the same class of ship or the same name as a different class of ship in another navy. Each weighted ten tons. Editor's Note: Re-issued by: MPC; Prinz Eugen (DKM CA) [1/1200] (WW2) WL; Series 2, … Indeed the last ones, the three Chesters, were launched in 1907. Superstructures were purely utilitarian, narrow to free more space abreast. USS Wichita spent most of her career in the Atlantic, escorting convoys with the Royal Navy. There aren't any hard and fast rules. - The Heavy Cruiser 3d Asset Pack has been merged into the base game - added a special infantry model with Pickelhaube for Unaligned Germany (Waking the Tiger) ##### # Bugfix ##### - Fixed a bug where Serbia was using the incorrect country colours. This allowed a 5.5 in (130 mm) armour thickness overall on the central cell and belt. USS Portland (CA33), was very active and deployed during most major naval operations of the Pacific, and several times damaged. Both ships received already counterkeels in 1939 to improve their stability, but in 1942 their superstructures were massively lightened, and the massive tripod masts were removed. A simple comparison makes it possible to get an idea of ​​it: The USS Wichita, when it entered service in February 1939, had 8 pieces of 127 mm and 8 machine guns of 12.7 mm. They were still in service in the 1980s, with little change. John Fedup The Bunker Group. During this period, the USN tested and operated no less than six cruiser types: The scout cruiser (Omaha class), the AA cruiser (Atlanta class, 5-in DP guns), the light cruiser (up to the Worcester, arguably “heavy-light”, but with 6-in guns), the heavy cruiser (from Pensacola to Des Moines, 8-in guns), and even the “large cruiser” (Alaska class, 12-in guns). The Alaska class was to have 6 buildings, but soon, when it became apparent that the concepts underlying them were totally out of date, the other three, which should have been started in June 1943, were canceled. Browning HMGs, of the liquid-cooled or later M2HB air-cooled type “Ma Deuce”. -The Mark 15 was a Mark 12 using the smaller chamber of the Mark 14 gun -The Mark 16 introduced a lined monobloc construction, vertical sliding breech blocks, and still a semi-fixed ammunition. During the war, these ships registered no losses, despite their presence in very hard commitments. Peacetime had long been forgotten, since at full load a Baltimore reached 17,000 tons, which was quite considerable, and placed them at the head of allied cruisers in size. 270. Medium Military Motorcycle. Some of this is due to things as arbitrary as meeting treaty. These over-armed sailors were so severely weighted in the highs that they were rebuilt in 1942. Each time they were on the broadside, with the exception of some that were elevated to the level of the main deck. They were a new league in themselves. Hi. Unlike the previous stanxard 16″/45 caliber of the North Carolina class, manufactured at the Naval Gun Factory, Washington D.C., the Mark 8 came from Midvale and Bethlehem Steel Corporation. One of their side TT bank was sacrificed for four additional 5-in and four twin 0.5 in mounts. The camouflage of the time was quite complex but well adapted to the landscape of South Pacific islands. They fired a 105 pounds (48 kg) shell at 900 meters per second (2,950 ft/s) and up to 23,130 meters (25,295 yd) in maximal elevation. Their distribution and the general physiognomy brought them much closer to the contemporary American battleships, so that they were sometimes placed in the obsolete category of “battle cruisers”, which took into account their speed -33 knots-and their armor-relatively light. Like them, they had this hull flush-deck and were recognisable “oven pipers”. - Banning Communism or Fascism should now also remove foreign communist/fascist influence national … The program called for a fast scout cruiser or flotilla leader able to perform the same missions, on the same displacement, taking advantage of the tonnage limitations, but armed with a completely new battery. Torpedo tubes were removed and AAA increased in compensation. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. AAA went up to four quadruple carriages, and four twin 40 mm and 12 singles 20 mm Oelikon. The Cleveland class, together with its late sub-class Fargo (1945), was the most numerous cruiser class in recorded history so far. Muzzle velocity was 2,500 feet per second (760 m/s) and maximum range was 30,050 yards (27,480 m). They proved in operation that they were a pretty bastard concept, finally, and having no adversaries after their war, expensive maintenance and in any case outclassed by missiles, these dinosaurs had no place in the fleet. The latter were of a new standard which lasted for ten more years until 1947, through the Cleveland and sub-classes Fargo and later the revolutionary Worcester. BT-7 (Bystrochodnij Tankov) Light Fast Tank. The definitions change so often it’s hard to keep up. Compartimentation was stronger, compensating the lack of armor by dissipating the rounds energy. At the end of the 1930s, the concept of “super destroyer” became fashionable. At roughly 7,000 tons it is 2000 tons more displacement than the RCN’s Iroquois destroyers from the late 1970s. You must log in or register to reply here. Many cancellations followed however towards the end of the war and in total only twenty-one of these cruisers were completed during wartime. These artillery pieces were designed in 1939, the prototype being tested in 1942. In 1942, they all received a new open gangway, with lightened superstructure, the CT removed, and portholes largely welded shuts. The new 8in rapid-fire gun appears to have worked well in service, the sole exception being a turret explosion in Newport News in 1972, which completely disabled No 2 mount. Later the Board accepted conventional side protection comparable to that of the Clevelands, and by the time the design had been completed early in 1944 the Chief of the Bureau of Ships saw it for the now seriously overloaded Clevelands. They were closely modelled on the Brooklyns but improved in all directions, range, AA … Indeed in surface action near Guadalcanal, USS Atlanta and Juneau were lost. Medium-class Military Motorcycle. Mikhail Kutuzov — Soviet promo premium Tier VIII cruiser. Armament: 9 x 203 mm (3×3), 8 x 127 mm, 8 x 12.7 mm, 4 seaplanes. 1932. USS Savannah in Algiers, near a burning Liberty ship, fall 1942. The concept was reminiscent (and partly inspired by) the British Dido class. Designed after the Northampton, the two new heavy cruisers, Portland and Indianapolis, were contemporary of the New Orleans which on their side improved on many points and mainly that of protection. On the other hand, this passage to fifteen guns took place at the cost of a drastic reduction of armor compared to New Orleans. After the conflict, this force was of course largely involved in many support operations, and some were later converted into hybrid missile launchers. Among these units, two will be completed on a different design, the USS Fargo and USS Huntington. The Des Moines had none, relying on more accurate, 3-in mounts and as well as the Worcester class. This was impressive in itself, but the system was way more efficient with radar-fuzed “VT” shells and Mk 37 fire control system and by 1943 the improved Mk 12/Mk 22 radar combination. 12.7 mm, 2×3 TLT 533 mm, 4 seaplanes. Until the capitulation of Japan, 124,735 Oerlikon were manufactured in the USA alone. Speed was just 24 kn (27.6 mph; 44.4 km/h), which was at the time better than most older cruisers. For example, the RCN’s T-26 is the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) ship. BMW R4. Until September 1944, about 32% of all Japanese aircraft downed were credited to the Oerlikon gun, and up to 48.3% from June 1942, espeically with the adption of the Mark 14 Gunsight developed by Dr. Charles Draper of MIT, using two gyros to measure vertical and lateral rate of change, integrated in the generic Mark 51 AA director. The “Chicago Piano” was the standard quad AA machine gun mount in rare use on interwar USN Cruisers of the New Orleans class. For example, Portland and Indianapolis were upgraded in 1944 with 24 Bofors 40 mm, in six quad mounts. According to plans I have, there would have been two catapults, one between funnel and mast as in conventional Hipper-class heavy cruiser, and another one aft the mast. The three ships completed appear to have been successful, USS Newport News serving as a flagship and fire support ship until she was decommissioned in 1975. WRT destroyers I really think pollies have … USS Astoria, Quincy and Vincennes were famously destroyed during the battle of Savo in August 1942, and the others participated in many hard engagements but survived the war. The Boston class conversion consisted in modifying the superstructures and adding two RIM-2 Terrier missile launchers aft, with the main artillery kept intact forward. They fired a 335 pounds (152 kg) A.P. With 29 completed out of 52 keels laid down, 13 cancellations and 10 converted into fast aircraft carriers (USS Independence class), this was the new standard of USN “light” cruisers. The Omaha were the first American cruisers after a very long eclipse dating back to 1907 (the Chester). Some areas were protected against 6-in shells at certain angles, but 8-in shells could pass through them without problem. They were the only losses of the war. Your email address will not be published. 109. These modifications were the prototypes of the subsequent Northampton class reconstruction. At first a twin installation in Oregon City hulls was contemplated, on the theory that these ships might not even be delayed by the change; however, the General Board was already dissatisfied with existing heavy cruiser designs and felt that by demanding a completely new ship with triple turrets it would provide the postwar fleet with at least some satisfactory cruisers; otherwise the war might end with nothing but an inadequate six-gun ship under construction. Initially only four ships were ordered, followed by four others much later, and war broken out in the meantime, and so they come as completely redefined in the 1940s with a new rearmament program in a serie of 11 vessels, later curtailed. Others were planned for the Lexington class battlecruisers and South Dakota class super dreadnoughts, both cancelled. USS Indianapolis (CA35), colorized by Irootoko Jr. The others served as AA escorts for the large Task Forces of the Pacific. 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It was adopted by the Omaha class AA cruisers, the Cleveland, and Baltimore class cruisers, Alaska, Worcester and Des Moines. Their artillery was original, with an arrangement of two double turrets and pieces in barbettes, an unlikely mix that illustrated their transitional nature. Two 45 pounds (20 kg) silk bags of smokeless powder were loaded each time. BT-SV (Stalin-Woroshilov) … After the war, those who were not broken up in 1960 had been sold to the three “naval powers” of South America, Brazil (StLouis), Argentina (Phoenix, Boise), and Chile (Brooklyn), Nashville). It was replaced by the much faster Mark 20 Gun Sight after the war. Are there more categories? 14. A big chunk has been treated already in sections such as the generic WW2 USN page and the WW2 Battleship section, notably for the 5-in (and dual 3-in/38), 3-in guns and light AA artillery. The current Halifax frigates are about the same, 5000 tons. ASW, ASuW, AA and missile strike are all in their arsenal. Reactions: SniperSquad, ngatimozart and John Fedup. First for delivering the A Bomb (“Little Boy”) at Tinian, where a B29 bomber named Enola Gay, carried it to sow apocalypse in Hiroshima. 15. Protection was to ensure immunity against the 6in 105lb shell between 9300 and 28,000yds (90° target angle); against 1000lb SAP bombs dropped from any altitude; and against 12in 1000lb AP bombs dropped from below 7500ft. 1938. *Name given to the USN missile systems developed in the 1950-60s: Talos, Terrier, Tartar. Two units were completed, Guam and Alaska launched in 1943, and Hawaii in March 1945, but only the first two were completed in June and September 1944. This revised 1942 design was to give them a better arc of fire for their AAA by adopting a more compact superstructure, entirely reviewed and simplified, plus a single funnel. 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